Written for Glory Cycles by Scott who works to ride and does not ride for work. He is 40 something, 6 foot tall and known as the fit guy at the office but not winning that many KOM's on Strava.
Let’s face it. Comparing the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 to anything new is a super tough comparison. The Dogma 65.1 Think 2 is pure beauty and genius. Sure, there are bikes that are lighter, more aero, so called “faster”, and better for this or that, but OVERALL I have never found a bike that stacks up to the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 (and I’ve tried a ton of bikes to find one that does).
But just like everything in life, once you have a clear leader, there’s someone always looking to knock you off the top step of the podium, and that’s exactly what Pinarello did to themselves when the created the Dogma F8.
Like they say in their promotion hashtags "F8EndOfDiscussion" It's that good!
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Here's my take on what's great about each bike.
DOGMA F8
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- It's just like the 65.1 Think 2, it's simply better and faster.
- It's stiff, but not harsh or abusive. I would even say “stiff, but forgiving”.
- It's very reactive, but not twitchy
- It's super fast & light feeling
- It's got a fantastic “feel” on the road
- It's pure Pinarello perfect geometry
- It's stable
- It's very effective and responsive in sprints and uphills
- It corners as good as any bike I’ve ever ridden
- It maintains total control on high speed downhills and sharp curves.
- Last minute braking is fantastic. The bike does not move, wobble, or vibrate.
- It's the perfect balance between race bike and comfort.
- The bike does exactly what you want
DOGMA 65.1 THINK 2
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So when I now look at my 65.1 Think 2, a bike which I also thought was basically perfect, I'm now left wondering what's "not as good" as the F8. To me, the F8 attributes I stated above all apply to the 65.1 Think 2, however some have a slight twist…
- It's light, but not as light (but far from heavy. Mine is only 120 grams heavier).
- It's rigid, but not as rigid
- It's NOT as aero
- I'd likely prefer to do a Century on the 65.1 THink 2 versus the F8, but I'd have no issues doing the Century on the F8
CONS TO EITHER
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- Other than the price, there are none. They are both unreal machines. To say there's a true "con" requires one to be dishonest.
So at the end of the day, here’s how I’d say it… if you want the world’s most comfortable OVERALL best performing bike (especially for longer weekend rides where some are down right fast rides with your buddies) the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 is the perfect bike. It just can’t be beat in the “overall” category.
If on the other hand, you want the world’s most comfortable bike, that's aero and as light as anything you’ll ever ride, and has more “racer” characteristics, the Dogma F8 is the perfect bike.
In either case, if you end up with ANY Dogma, you’ve hit the lottery and your buddies will be drooling with jealousy. I can guarantee you’ll smile 100% of the time you’re riding either bike. Neither will let you down! That's it for now… I'm off to ride my F8! Scott.
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Let’s face it. Comparing the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 to anything new is a super tough comparison. The Dogma 65.1 Think 2 is pure beauty and genius. Sure, there are bikes that are lighter, more aero, so called “faster”, and better for this or that, but OVERALL I have never found a bike that stacks up to the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 (and I’ve tried a ton of bikes to find one that does).
But just like everything in life, once you have a clear leader, there’s someone always looking to knock you off the top step of the podium, and that’s exactly what Pinarello did to themselves when the created the Dogma F8.
Like they say in their promotion hashtags "F8EndOfDiscussion" It's that good!
Here's my take on what's great about each bike.
DOGMA F8
——————————
- It's just like the 65.1 Think 2, it's simply better and faster.
- It's stiff, but not harsh or abusive. I would even say “stiff, but forgiving”.
- It's very reactive, but not twitchy
- It's super fast & light feeling
- It's got a fantastic “feel” on the road
- It's pure Pinarello perfect geometry
- It's stable
- It's very effective and responsive in sprints and uphills
- It corners as good as any bike I’ve ever ridden
- It maintains total control on high speed downhills and sharp curves.
- Last minute braking is fantastic. The bike does not move, wobble, or vibrate.
- It's the perfect balance between race bike and comfort.
- The bike does exactly what you want
DOGMA 65.1 THINK 2
———————————————
So when I now look at my 65.1 Think 2, a bike which I also thought was basically perfect, I'm now left wondering what's "not as good" as the F8. To me, the F8 attributes I stated above all apply to the 65.1 Think 2, however some have a slight twist…
- It's light, but not as light (but far from heavy. Mine is only 120 grams heavier).
- It's rigid, but not as rigid
- It's NOT as aero
- I'd likely prefer to do a Century on the 65.1 THink 2 versus the F8, but I'd have no issues doing the Century on the F8
CONS TO EITHER
—————————————
- Other than the price, there are none. They are both unreal machines. To say there's a true "con" requires one to be dishonest.
So at the end of the day, here’s how I’d say it… if you want the world’s most comfortable OVERALL best performing bike (especially for longer weekend rides where some are down right fast rides with your buddies) the Dogma 65.1 Think 2 is the perfect bike. It just can’t be beat in the “overall” category.
If on the other hand, you want the world’s most comfortable bike, that's aero and as light as anything you’ll ever ride, and has more “racer” characteristics, the Dogma F8 is the perfect bike.
In either case, if you end up with ANY Dogma, you’ve hit the lottery and your buddies will be drooling with jealousy. I can guarantee you’ll smile 100% of the time you’re riding either bike. Neither will let you down! That's it for now… I'm off to ride my F8! Scott.
